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of this you focus on what happens internationally and china continues to recover. europe looks like it's stabilizing and we didn't change our strategy based on the news, just a little bit more of what you're doing. >> randy, anything change for you? >> no, not really. what we're watching is the parallels that occur now, where we stood with the fiscal cliff and where we stood in 1999 with the y2k situation. we borrowed a lot of growth in 1999 from 2000, and that led us to a recession. we're looking at the same thing now. we're seeing people have accelerated dividends, pre-payments, seeing a lot of companies that single proprietors are paying themselves this year in anticipation of higher rates. >> it's interesting that you point that out. it could be argued at the same time that we're delaying growth until next year because of the number of companies that have delayed hiring or capital expenditures because of the uncertainty about the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. well, uncertainty, unfortunately, is perhaps going to continue with this because the regulations are not going to go away there. ma
without $1 trillion in stimulus. in europe the stimulus stopped working in 2012. in 2013 the stimulus is just not going to make an impact. these more wealthy people that will be spending will be hit by more taxes and they will slow down and i think that you're going to see the economy be much worse in 2013, but, you know, we may get more stimulus first in china and europe so i think it's going to be see-saw first half of 2013 and then i think the markets will head down seriously in the second half of 2013. >> but, again, to his point, the wealthy includes savers, both corporate and individuals, grandma and grand past the fed is killing them. >> killing them. >> so if we don't reball the equation, i don't think we'll make any progress. >> very, very important insights. gentlemen, appreciate it. >> happy new year. >> let's hope it's a happy one, guys. thank you. >>> meanwhile, dallas federal reserve president richard fisher saying congress should borrow a book from its playbook to strike a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> we get things done. we make a decision, and we proceed. >> we'll disc
of the year. we have so much uncertainty in washington. we do have slowing economies in europe and in the u.s. >> right. david, what do you say right now? break the tie for us. >> break the tie. in the near term, there's an epic tug of war between extremely aggressive monetary easing and just total disdain for what they're doing in washington on tax and regulatory policy. in the near term, the fiscal cliff prevails. in the longer term, the fed will prevail. there's so much mistrust on stocks that i think that still can be a positive catalyst for stocks relative to traditional bonds over the next 12 months. >> i'm going to push back a little bit on that. >> i'm going to break the tie in ralph's favor. >> david, i want to push back a little bit on that. in terms of -- like, is the fed really that much of a factor these days now in terms of keeping the market afloat? >> absolutely. >> it's not losing its bang for its buck? >> it's not as powerful as it was in the fall of 2008 or even 2010, but when you consider that, u.s., long bonds, 1.5%. short-term interest rates, zero. negative on an infla
last time you liked europe. what about here in the united states? what would you buy here? >> well, i wouldn't buy anything if i haven't bought it already. i would sit around and wait. you've got she nan nanigans goi in washington. there are 535 people who have to think i want to keep my job. they'll decide to rise above. this is all going to be wonderful. in the meantime, if you're trying to figure out which way to go, i have traders out here who will tell you every day very difficult thing to do. >> isn't that the case. for sure. >> sandy, weigh in here. what would you be doing? >> actually i take a little bit different view. this fiscal cliff is a grander issue than just the united states. the drag in the u.s. is a big import to the rest of the world. stock markets are supposed to be leading economic indicators. if you look at the markets around the world from the last several weeks to months, the markets seem to be indicating just the opposite. they seem to be indicating that a deal will get done. what kind of deal whether it's one stage or two stage, nobody knows. but the fact of
and ongoing problems in europe. the market has done better than it has usual done. what's changed? i think there will be continued political turmoil and slow growth but that's, particularly given valuations, may not be a bad year for equities as all. >> i'm going to add to that list having been a good year for the stock market. also had a lot of recovery in the housing market as well. do all these good things, all this progress become undone if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> i think clearly we've seen some healing in housing which is great and as has already been said we've seen some good progress over in europe and in china so that's all great. i'm neutral on equities in my allocation strategy fund, target rich funds and the reason for that is the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff then i think that given how lean companies are, and as slow as we're growing, we could see the economy dip back into recession and earnings estimates will have to go lower. >> the mastercard report on retail sales not good. the worst since '08, and you're concerned -- obviously there are those who fe
. global travel company, expedia.com. recently announced they're growing in europe. seagate technology has a 5% dividend and a plan to cut the number of outstanding shares. and ebay could well be positioned to take advantage of the trend. now apple, despite a tough quarter, the launches of the iphone 5 and the ipad mini helped them return over 30% this year. though it's been a tough three months. it wasn't all positive in tech for everyone. marvel technology group down. the chip company hurt by a ruling against them in a lawsuit. hewlett-packard hurt. most recently because of possible accounting issues. and dell hurt by a pc industry that has well passed its prime. they've been looking to more of a services driven business. the biggest ipos of the year didn't turn out as spectacularly. facebook shares went down to 26.60 today. >> love that. thank you. >>> the nasdaq did better than the dow in 2012 and even better than the s&p 500. so now let's get tech predictions for next year and hold on to your hats, guys. because they range from microsoft taking over rim to twitter going public. great
of england. commentary from mario draghi will be very important about the state of affairs in europe. there's an analyst meeting tomorrow. a lot of this is tied to stronger revenue growth. and there's an analyst meeting tomorrow on hombres. i like both stocks. >> thanks a lot, stephanie. chris, what are you looking for. 30 seconds on the clock. what do you want to look at to move our money? >> the major impact is looking at the fiscal cliff. any compromise close to that is going to give the market some upward swing. the gop is under extreme pressure since president obama is definitely going to be seeing a wealthy tax added to it. on the economic news, little light tomorrow with initial claims at about 390,000, but the big story is really friday as we look to the jobs report. we believe that the effect of the payroll will be at 50,000 range due to the effect of hurricane sandy which could put our unemployment up to an 8% rate. >> all right. we'll be watching that. thanks very much to you both. we appreciate it. of course we'll be looking at this market and whether or not it loses the steam c
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, the housing market is getting better. europe appears to be moving in the right direction as is china so the fundamentals are moving in the right direction, but the truth is if washington messes this up, we could go into recession the first part of next year, so that's what's keeping the cautious one on equities. ultimately i think we will finish higher for 2013, but we've got -- we've got to get past this fiscal cliff, because if we don't we go into recession, and i will go underweight stocks. >> all right. we will leave it there. gentlemen and liz ann seaners, good to have you on the program. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thanks so much. sticking with the market and the economy, ceo co-founder ken langone. >> thank you. merry christmas. >> the co-founder of home depot, a financier, a guy who has his finger on the pulse of global business. that's why we wanted to have you for the whole hour. >> very nice. >> thank you and merry christmas to you as well. what's your take? just got the numbers from okay. here we are, every day worry after worry after worry on this fiscal cliff issue, an
the side of the mountain in almost every major country in the world, whether it's japan, china, europe is now pressing on the accelerator, brazil, even india, the united states. i think when you look at the monetary stimulus that's taking place around the world, the uncertainty over the cliff will go away. i think we'll grow better than 4% nominal and might grow 3% to 4% real in the united states and multiple expansion would clearly take place under that scenario, so i think it's hard to get to bearish, particularly when the stock market is not giving us any signs of meaningful deterioration, you know, whether you look at the technical indicators or fundamental indicators. >> a great point. bill stone, you know, rimm stock has done so well just in the last several weeks. we're still expecting a loss for the quarter on 2.66 billion in revenue, but do you own this stock? would you buy rimm? would you look to buy technology going into 2013? >> we don't own the stock. i will say i am a product user. i love rimm because i love that keyboard. i can't get rid of it. >> right. >> i don't reall
. they don't know what the tax rates are. clearly europe has gone in the right trajectory. there's some things set up here for markets to behave normally again and i think that would be fabulous for those that have capital market experience, those are obviously the most vulnerable. if you go over the cliff, you stay at the cliff. some of the regional banks that are coming back, as well, companies like regionons financial has gotten some of its credit woes behind it. they may surprise with the capital returns, as well. capital one has solid consolidators. they're now the seventh largest bank in this country. a shock to everybody, but very cheap to future earnings as long as we don't stay over the cliff for a long period of time. >> thank you so much. a former marma was indecided for insider trading. >> he was indicted today stemming from his trading of two pharmaceutical companies during the period of 2000. it's been a tough year for him, a married father of three who fainted at one point from anxiety when the fbi visited his home. but the question looming large over this case all along
at emerging markets, lock at europe. they are decoupling. if anything, price is still very bull ir. i would rather listen to price. >> why do you say it's still very bullish? >> they recovered almost completely the loss which means the markets thinks tax puts will still be in play. the market is saying it's okay, you know, we've had an increase in market cap this year in the s&p 500 over $1 trillion. >> right. >> that's more than the cliff. >> let me go to my facebook friend michael carr. you speak washington ese. the house is convening. the president is -- >> doesn't it just make you sick? >> the were inthing you want to watch is eachon javers. i thought it was a perfect graphic. it's fabulous. you can't make it up. >> what do you do when you don't know what's going to happen, and you really don't. if you can get the debt limit thing right and guess how it's going to turn out or guess that it's actually going to do something, all evidence to the contrary, how would you invest, and when you recognize that none of us probably know and got it wrong the last time the debt ceiling came around.
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